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Re: UH-Oh LOOK WHAT HAPPENED.......... [Re: Ron Silva] #449310
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Re: UH-Oh LOOK WHAT HAPPENED.......... [Re: Ron Silva] #449311
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Re: UH-Oh LOOK WHAT HAPPENED.......... [Re: Ron Silva] #449312
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Wish I had the funds to come out and visit Ron, I would love to help you out on this monster...Good luck and enjoy.....Phill

Re: UH-Oh LOOK WHAT HAPPENED.......... [Re: 9 Sec Phill] #449313
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Glad it arrived in 1 piece

Don't mind the burnt plywood on the sides, you would'nt want me to build your house I can tell you that LOL. Cutting plywood on the table saw is definitely not my day job...

Re: UH-Oh LOOK WHAT HAPPENED.......... [Re: RyanJ] #449314
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Glad it arrived in 1 piece

Don't mind the burnt plywood on the sides, you would'nt want me to build your house I can tell you that LOL. Cutting plywood on the table saw is definitely not my day job...




how many of those crates would i have to build for you..for say.....???
a 421" 59* smallblock..?


365" Iron J heads,,3480lbs best 1.39 60ft on SS springs.10.54,124 mph ...6.67 1/8th et.average 60fts 1.46 w/ small cam &.063 no2 pill tagged & insured
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Re: UH-Oh LOOK WHAT HAPPENED.......... [Re: RyanJ] #449315
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Glad it arrived in 1 piece

Don't mind the burnt plywood on the sides, you would'nt want me to build your house I can tell you that LOL. Cutting plywood on the table saw is definitely not my day job...



You TOLD me that you could not nail two boards together?
You did a good job but forgot the spray foam,glue and paint.

Re: UH-Oh LOOK WHAT HAPPENED.......... [Re: MattW] #449316
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Glad it arrived in 1 piece

Don't mind the burnt plywood on the sides, you would'nt want me to build your house I can tell you that LOL. Cutting plywood on the table saw is definitely not my day job...



You TOLD me that you could not nail two boards together?
You did a good job but forgot the spray foam,glue and paint.




There is not a SINGLE nail in that crate........ lot's of SCREWS...but no nails LOL

Re: UH-Oh LOOK WHAT HAPPENED.......... [Re: cheapstreetdustr] #449317
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Glad it arrived in 1 piece

Don't mind the burnt plywood on the sides, you would'nt want me to build your house I can tell you that LOL. Cutting plywood on the table saw is definitely not my day job...




how many of those crates would i have to build for you..for say.....???
a 421" 59* smallblock..?





you do the math...lol
CRATING ENGINE FOR SHIPPING:………………………………………$175.00..

Re: UH-Oh LOOK WHAT HAPPENED.......... [Re: SB449VALIANT] #449318
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Glad it arrived in 1 piece

Don't mind the burnt plywood on the sides, you would'nt want me to build your house I can tell you that LOL. Cutting plywood on the table saw is definitely not my day job...




how many of those crates would i have to build for you..for say.....???
a 421" 59* smallblock..?





you do the math...lol
CRATING ENGINE FOR SHIPPING:………………………………………$175.00..




So Ryan..you got room around there for a hundred of these?

lol
cheapst.


365" Iron J heads,,3480lbs best 1.39 60ft on SS springs.10.54,124 mph ...6.67 1/8th et.average 60fts 1.46 w/ small cam &.063 no2 pill tagged & insured
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Re: UH-Oh LOOK WHAT HAPPENED.......... [Re: RyanJ] #449319
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Don't mind the burnt plywood on the sides,...




That is not burned...it is surface hardened from heat treating. (deliberately done IMO) Nice work on the details of this build, thanks for sharing. Can't wait for the results.

Re: UH-Oh LOOK WHAT HAPPENED.......... [Re: Ron Silva] #449320
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Subscribed! Wow.

Re: UH-Oh LOOK WHAT HAPPENED.......... [Re: Devilbrad] #449321
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Wow! lots of nice photos and tech,better keep it.Thanks!

Re: UH-Oh LOOK WHAT HAPPENED.......... [Re: Devilbrad] #449322
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Subscribed! Wow.




Are you going to slap one of those into your '67 now?

Nice build, and tech info here, guys!

Re: UH-Oh LOOK WHAT HAPPENED.......... [Re: RawnDart] #449323
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Subscribed! Wow.




Are you going to slap one of those into your '67 now?

Nice build, and tech info here, guys!




Um, no. LOL

Re: UH-Oh LOOK WHAT HAPPENED.......... [Re: Devilbrad] #449324
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Any updates?

Timeline? Anything?

Re: UH-Oh LOOK WHAT HAPPENED.......... [Re: POS Dakota] #449325
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Well, I am working on it! LOL

Car Craft took pics of all the parts right after I got them and they might want to dyno the engine. So, that might upset my ultimate plan. I was hoping to have it in the car for MATS, but I do not think that is likely since I have to build the headers for the car and that is 3 weeks minimum. Usually about 4-6 weeks will do it. I want to race the Valiant at MATS so I am pretty sure it will be with the current Mopar 406 crate motor just to be on the safe side.

So far I have finished hand lightening/blending all the CNC work on the block and I just mocked up the heads and intake on the block to get a dimension for end spacers to go on the china walls. Ryan measured the mains but I still have to mock up and verify 7 of the rods clearances. I have been spending a lot of time gathering misc parts that are not included with a build from scratch engine and getting misc gaskets etc... Like the plate/fitting/gasket that the oil filter mounts on and the dip stick. This block is not taking a standard dip stick and is even different from the last R3 Block I had of the same configuration. I finally figured out a production Magnum DipStick will work (with mods).
Right now I want to get to the point where I can give the block it's final wash and start assymbling the short block.

I hate to say I work slow and I am checking and rechecking everything and dealing with all the details. It would be stupid to be careless and needlessly blow up a motor that costs this much. As with my last good engine, I want it to be right and then go out and beat on it and not worry. I have the parts that are up to the task. I just need to make sure everything goes together without any issues.

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Re: UH-Oh LOOK WHAT HAPPENED.......... [Re: Ron Silva] #449326
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I'm sure you're aware of the billet aluminum oil filter plate CV Products makes for the R3 blocks? Its o-ring sealed. http://www.cvproducts.com/Products.aspx?Search=cv783

Re: UH-Oh LOOK WHAT HAPPENED.......... [Re: Ron Silva] #449327
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Well, I am working on it! LOL

Car Craft took pics of all the parts right after I got them and they might want to dyno the engine. So, that might upset my ultimate plan. I was hoping to have it in the car for MATS, but I do not think that is likely since I have to build the headers for the car and that is 3 weeks minimum. Usually about 4-6 weeks will do it. I want to race the Valiant at MATS so I am pretty sure it will be with the current Mopar 406 crate motor just to be on the safe side.

So far I have finished hand lightening/blending all the CNC work on the block and I just mocked up the heads and intake on the block to get a dimension for end spacers to go on the china walls. Ryan measured the mains but I still have to mock up and verify 7 of the rods clearances. I have been spending a lot of time gathering misc parts that are not included with a build from scratch engine and getting misc gaskets etc... Like the plate/fitting/gasket that the oil filter mounts on and the dip stick. This block is not taking a standard dip stick and is even different from the last R3 Block I had of the same configuration. I finally figured out a production Magnum DipStick will work (with mods).
Right now I want to get to the point where I can give the block it's final wash and start assymbling the short block.

I hate to say I work slow and I am checking and rechecking everything and dealing with all the details. It would be stupid to be careless and needlessly blow up a motor that costs this much. As with my last good engine, I want it to be right and then go out and beat on it and not worry. I have the parts that are up to the task. I just need to make sure everything goes together without any issues.



So Ron , What R U doing with the lifter vallee? R U going to close it up or leave it open.
I hear alot of info about oil dropping into that area and creating windage.
Matt

Re: UH-Oh LOOK WHAT HAPPENED.......... [Re: Devilbrad] #449328
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I'm sure you're aware of the billet aluminum oil filter plate CV Products makes for the R3 blocks? Its o-ring sealed. http://www.cvproducts.com/Products.aspx?Search=cv783




devilbrad , I did not know about that. Thanks, that will give me another option when it comes down to it. I ended up ordering all the stock stuff and I ordered a Billet Plate from Canton (seals with an "O"-ring). The Canton one uses the stock fitting and the production piece is very good nowadays. Better than the older stuff by far.


Matt, I am leaving the valley open. In fact we cut that all out to save weight. It was originally all closed up. If you look close you can see the holes we drilled to return oil to the bottom in the stock area as well as cutting out the center. I like the oil splashing all over and lubricating everything per factory design. I even drilled the holes in the front China Wall to splash lube the timing chain that were not there.
Nowadays the trend is to put oil squirters to spray oil on the bottom of the piston. So if my crank is slinging oil up there I think that would be benificial to a point.
I am not planning on running a windage tray of any sort either. Just a deep Milodon pan with baffles.
You have to remember this is a 6500 RPM motor and the HP loss from Windage will not be that great.


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Re: UH-Oh LOOK WHAT HAPPENED.......... [Re: Ron Silva] #449329
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I'm sure you're aware of the billet aluminum oil filter plate CV Products makes for the R3 blocks? Its o-ring sealed. http://www.cvproducts.com/Products.aspx?Search=cv783




devilbrad , I did not know about that. Thanks, that will give me another option when it comes down to it. I ended up ordering all the stock stuff and I ordered a Billet Plate from Canton (seals with an "O"-ring). The Canton one uses the stock fitting and the production piece is very good nowadays. Better than the older stuff by far.




The fitting is also o-ring sealed. Nice stuff.




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